{"id":747,"date":"2012-06-07T15:33:13","date_gmt":"2012-06-07T13:33:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.devadeas.fr\/?p=747"},"modified":"2023-03-29T12:40:06","modified_gmt":"2023-03-29T10:40:06","slug":"la-societe-generale-nous-repond-il-ne-sagit-que-de-capter-du-dividende","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.devadeas.fr\/index.php\/laction-de-ladeas\/la-societe-generale-nous-repond-il-ne-sagit-que-de-capter-du-dividende\/","title":{"rendered":"La Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale nous r\u00e9pond : il ne s&rsquo;agit que de capter du dividende !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>La Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale a r\u00e9pondu \u00e0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cfecgc-orange.org\/201205143061\/communiques-de-presse\/la-cfe-cgc-unsa-propose-a-la-societe-generale-de-voter-le-dividende-a-1-euro-a-france-telecom-sa.html?highlight=WyJzb2NpXHUwMGU5dFx1MDBlOSIsInNvY2lcdTAwZTl0XHUwMGU5JyIsImdcdTAwZTluXHUwMGU5cmFsZSIsInNvY2lcdTAwZTl0XHUwMGU5IGdcdTAwZTluXHUwMGU5cmFsZSJd\">notre courrier du 14 mai dernier.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>T\u00e9l\u00e9charger la r\u00e9ponse de la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale :<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cfecgc-orange.org\/images\/stories\/documents\/ParticipationInteressementActionnariat\/2012\/2012_06_04_-_Courrier_de_la_St_Gnrale_-_Monte_de_la_St_Gale_au_capital_de_FT_SA.pdf\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.cfecgc-orange.org\/plugins\/editors\/jce\/tiny_mce\/plugins\/filemanager\/img\/ext\/pdf_small.gif\" alt=\"pdf\" width=\"auto\" height=\"auto\" \/>\u00a02012_06_04_-_Courrier_de_la_Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale_-_Mont\u00e9e_de_la_Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale_au_capital_de_FT_SA.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Ce que nous comprenons de ce courrier, re\u00e7u alors que l&rsquo;Assembl\u00e9e G\u00e9n\u00e9rale des actionnaires avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 eu lieu\u00a0:<\/h3>\n<p>Comme de nombreux acteurs financiers, la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale proc\u00e8de \u00e0 des achats \/ reventes d&rsquo;actions permettant de toucher le maximum de dividendes, et donc de r\u00e9aliser des profits sans risque en quelques jours.<\/p>\n<p>La pratique consistant \u00e0 acheter une masse significative d&rsquo;actions au moment opportun pour toucher tout ou partie du dividende qui y est attach\u00e9, pour les revendre imm\u00e9diatement apr\u00e8s, est donc bien ancr\u00e9e\u00a0chez les banquiers : <a href=\"https:\/\/www.devadeas.fr\/index.php\/nos-analyses\/la-montee-au-capital-de-france-telecom-de-la-deutsche-bank-n-etait-qu-une-optimisation-financiere\/\">en 2010, nous avions constat\u00e9 un comportement\u00a0similaire de la Deutsche Bank<\/a>. Ce type de comportement est tr\u00e8s visible lorsqu&rsquo;il y a franchissement d&rsquo;un seuil significatif (en France, l&rsquo;AMF impose de d\u00e9clarer les achats ou les ventes d&rsquo;actions lorsqu&rsquo;elles impliquent un franchissement du seuil de 5% du capital d\u00e9tenu dans une entreprise cot\u00e9e au CAC40), mais il se produit bien \u00e9videmment tr\u00e8s r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement sur des volumes inf\u00e9rieurs d&rsquo;actions, dans des conditions plus discr\u00e8tes.<\/p>\n<p>Un acteur disposant d&rsquo;une masse suffisante de capitaux peut donc tr\u00e8s facilement se livrer \u00e0 la \u00ab\u00a0cueillette du dividende\u00a0\u00bb aupr\u00e8s d&rsquo;un certain nombre d&rsquo;entreprises cot\u00e9es en Bourse, en programment achats et ventes d&rsquo;actions selon les calendriers de d\u00e9tachement du coupon et la g\u00e9n\u00e9rosit\u00e9 des Conseils d&rsquo;Administration vis \u00e0 vis de leurs actionnaires.<\/p>\n<p>On le comprend bien, cette pratique n&rsquo;apporte strictement rien aux soci\u00e9t\u00e9s dont les actions sont ainsi achet\u00e9es et revendues \u00e0 br\u00e8ve \u00e9ch\u00e9ance : il ne s&rsquo;agit pas ici d&rsquo;investissement et de participation \u00e0 la croissance des entreprises, mais uniquement d&rsquo;op\u00e9rations sp\u00e9culatives permettant d&rsquo;alimenter diff\u00e9rents produits financiers vendus par les banquiers et les assureurs.<\/p>\n<h3>L&rsquo;op\u00e9ration de la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale lui aura permis de capter, en quelques jours, plus de 100 millions\u00a0d&rsquo;euros.<\/h3>\n<p>Les actionnaires stables de l&rsquo;entreprise en verront l&rsquo;impact sur la cote de l&rsquo;action : elle baisse d\u00e9j\u00e0 m\u00e9caniquement \u00e0 chaque distribution de coupon, et la remise en vente d&rsquo;un nombre significatif d&rsquo;actions sur le march\u00e9, alors qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y a plus de b\u00e9n\u00e9ficie imm\u00e9diat \u00e0 en tirer, ne fait qu&rsquo;accentuer la chute du cours, et donc d\u00e9grade le capital des actionnaires fid\u00e8les qui gardent leurs actions en portefeuille, qu&rsquo;ils soient notamment salari\u00e9s de l&rsquo;entreprise, ou simples particuliers \u00ab\u00a0petits porteurs\u00a0\u00bb. L&rsquo;entreprise France T\u00e9l\u00e9com-Orange n&rsquo;y a strictement rien gagn\u00e9, elle subit au contraire une nouvelle baisse de sa capitalisation boursi\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<p>Bien s\u00fbr, le fait de distribuer un dividende cons\u00e9quent, en particulier au regard du prix unitaire de l&rsquo;action, ne fait qu&rsquo;inciter davantage d&rsquo;acteurs financiers \u00e0 monter ce type d&rsquo;achats \/ reventes, et n&rsquo;alimente donc que la pure sp\u00e9culation.<\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est ce que nous tentons de faire comprendre \u00e0 tous les actionnaires de l&rsquo;entreprise. Cette ann\u00e9e, pr\u00e8s de 15% l&rsquo;ont compris, qui ont vot\u00e9 en faveur de la r\u00e9solution \u00ab\u00a0A\u00a0\u00bb, proposant de ramener le dividende \u00e0 1 euro par action au lieu de 1,40 euro. Malheureusement, ni l&rsquo;Etat (alors que notre nouveau Pr\u00e9sident de la R\u00e9publique avait annonc\u00e9 vouloir se battre contre la sp\u00e9culation), ni les actionnaires qui s&rsquo;insurgent des positions exprim\u00e9es par les repr\u00e9sentants des salari\u00e9s actionnaires, ne semblent recevoir ce message.<\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;ADEAS le disait dans <a href=\"https:\/\/www.devadeas.fr\/index.php\/laction-de-ladeas\/pour-un-capitalisme-a-visage-humain\/\">son premier communiqu\u00e9 de presse, en 2009<\/a> : \u00ab\u00a0si on tue la poule, il n&rsquo;y aura plus d&rsquo;\u0153uf\u00a0\u00bb. Il nous reste visiblement du chemin \u00e0 parcourir pour faire entendre ce message de bon sens. Mais, forts notamment d&rsquo;une mobilisation sans pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent de nos militants et sympathisants lors de l&rsquo;AG 2012, nous poursuivrons notre d\u00e9marche. Car ce qui nous importe en priorit\u00e9, c&rsquo;est la p\u00e9rennit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;entreprise, et les emplois \u00e0 pr\u00e9server ou \u00e0 cr\u00e9er pour le bien de la collectivit\u00e9. Il y a urgence, et nous ne pouvons que d\u00e9plorer ce premier faux pas \u00e9conomique du nouveau gouvernement, mais nous ne baissons pas les bras.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 G\u00e9n\u00e9rale a r\u00e9pondu \u00e0 notre courrier du 14 mai dernier. 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